Question: (KJV Acts 8:12-19) "But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done. Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, saying, 'Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost'."
After reading this scripture, one can conclude that:
1. You do not receive God's Holy Spirit at the moment you are baptized, as is evidenced by this scripture
2. You do not receive God's Holy Spirit at the exact moment you believe
These scriptures prove that believing in Jesus and being baptized are not linked with receiving his Holy Spirit. Scripture states that unless you have God's Spirit, then you are none of his. Are you absolutely sure you have God's Holy Spirit residing in you?
And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, saying, 'Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost'."
After reading this scripture, one can conclude that:
1. You do not receive God's Holy Spirit at the moment you are baptized, as is evidenced by this scripture
2. You do not receive God's Holy Spirit at the exact moment you believe
These scriptures prove that believing in Jesus and being baptized are not linked with receiving his Holy Spirit. Scripture states that unless you have God's Spirit, then you are none of his. Are you absolutely sure you have God's Holy Spirit residing in you?
My Reply:
OK, orders of receiving the Holy Spirit:
Acts 2:37-38 = 3000 who experienced those speaking in tongues on Pentecost Sunday:
1) Heard the Gospel
1) Heard the Gospel
2) Believed & Repented
3) Baptized
4) Received the Holy Spirit.
John 20:22 = Apostles received the Holy Spirit (before Pentecost Sunday):
1) Some were baptized first under John the Baptist
John 20:22 = Apostles received the Holy Spirit (before Pentecost Sunday):
1) Some were baptized first under John the Baptist
2) Believed
3) Gospel
4) Could Jesus' washing of their feet symbolize Him baptizing them?
5) Jesus breathed on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:
Other believers (not the 11) praying in upper room, Holy Spirit came upon them:
1) No mention of baptism
2) Believed
3) Received the Holy Spirit when tongues of fire landed on them.
Acts 8:
1) Heard the Gospel
Acts 2:
Other believers (not the 11) praying in upper room, Holy Spirit came upon them:
1) No mention of baptism
2) Believed
3) Received the Holy Spirit when tongues of fire landed on them.
Acts 8:
1) Heard the Gospel
2) Believed
3) Baptized (but the Holy Spirit didn't come upon them)
4) Apostles prayed & laid hands upon them
5) Received the Holy Spirit.
Acts 9:17-18 = Saul / Paul
1) Saul experienced Jesus Christ
Acts 9:17-18 = Saul / Paul
1) Saul experienced Jesus Christ
2) Saul Prayed / Believed & Repented
3) Ananias laid hands on him
4) Received the Holy Spirit
5) was baptized
6) THEN he heard the Gospel.
Acts 10:44 ff:
1) Gospel
Acts 10:44 ff:
1) Gospel
2) "While Peter was still speaking, the H.S. fell upon those who heard the Word of God."
3) Baptized
4) Ministry (Peter stayed with them several days).
Acts 19:1-6:
1) John the Baptist's message
Acts 19:1-6:
1) John the Baptist's message
2) Baptized by John the Baptist for the forgiveness of sins (never received the H.S.)
3) Heard about the H.S.
4) Baptized AGAIN (this time in the name of the Lord Jesus)
5) Paul laid hands on them
6) Received the H.S.
My point:
My point:
There's no sequence as to when the Holy Spirit rests upon somebody.
Also, not everybody who received the Holy Spirit ended up speaking in tongues...even the Apostle Paul said that tongues is just one of the many gifts, pointing out that not everybody has it. Many denominations also believe that the Holy Spirit is the one that brings us to the Lord in the first place. Either way, I think God does a great job of reminding us that HE is in charge, not us. Also, that He is not bound to our rules or expectations.
As to your question, yes, I am Absolutely, 100% positive that God's Holy Spirit resides in me.
Also, not everybody who received the Holy Spirit ended up speaking in tongues...even the Apostle Paul said that tongues is just one of the many gifts, pointing out that not everybody has it. Many denominations also believe that the Holy Spirit is the one that brings us to the Lord in the first place. Either way, I think God does a great job of reminding us that HE is in charge, not us. Also, that He is not bound to our rules or expectations.
As to your question, yes, I am Absolutely, 100% positive that God's Holy Spirit resides in me.
---Pastor Andy
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